Muslims Quran Claim 1
Muslims makes claims about the Quran but do the evidence sustain their claims? These lessons will take the claims and examine them and compare them to reality. The claims will come from Muslims and much of the Evidence will come from Hadiths, Modern and Ancient Muslim’s Commentators and their Scholars. Muslims get upset when their claims are challenge but why? If what they said are the truth than it should be easy to refute the evidence given but it must be done with true evidence and not opinions.
1. –- The Text of the Quran is entirely reliable. It has been as it is, unedited, unaltered, not tamper with in anyway since the time of its revelation. [M. Fethullah Gulen, Questions this modern age put to Islam, London: Truestar, 1993 page 58] — The Quran was Memorized by Muhammad and then he dictated it to his companions and the Scribes wrote it down and cross checked it during his lifetime. Not one word has been changed over the centuries [Understanding the Muslims and Islam, Australian Federation of Islamic Councils Inc. Pamphlet November 1991].
There are two points these statements are making. First Muhammad memorized the complete Quran and Secondly Muhammad dictated it to his followers who wrote it down without altering or editing it and they double check the Quran during Muhammad’s lifetime. If this is true than History, the Hadiths, and the Quran should support these two claims. Question is are those claims supported by irrefutable evidence? Let us examine Muslims’ sources.
Muhammad Memorized the Quran: — The Quran and Hadiths clearly shows he didn’t. —
Sura 87:6 We shall make thee read (O Muhammad) so that thou shalt not forget
Sura 87:7 Save that which Allah willeth. Lo! He knoweth the disclosed and that which still is hidden;
Sura 2:106 Nothing of our revelation (even a single verse) do we abrogate or cause be forgotten, but we bring (in place) one better or the like thereof. Knowest thou not that Allah is Able to do all things?
The above Quran verses showed Muhammad did forget some of what the angel supposedly told him.
Sahih Bukhari 61:558 Narrated Aisha: Allah’s Apostle heard a man reciting the Qur’an at night, and said, “May Allah bestow His Mercy on him, as he has reminded me of such-and-such Verses of such-and-such Suras, which I was caused to forget
Sahih Bukhari 61:556 Narrated Aisha: The Prophet heard a man reciting the Qur’an in the mosque and said, “May Allah bestow His Mercy on him, as he has reminded me of such-and-such Verses of such a Surah.”
The Quran and the Sahih Bukhari Hadith showed Muhammad did forget some of the Quran and if he heard another recite it than he will remember it. Point is contrary to the Muslim’s claim he memorized the Quran the evidence showed differently.
His followers wrote down what Muhammad dictated Unedited or unaltered and double check it in Muhammad’s life time. — First question in my mind is where are the Manuscripts or fragments of the Manuscripts from his followers? The Bible has manuscripts and Fragments of Manuscript that is older than their supposed Manuscripts will be if this was a true statement. Also they wrote down what he dictated to them but history showed they didn’t write much down. Let us look at History.
My proof is in the Hadiths’ links at the end of this evidence.
About a year or so after Muhammad’s death, as we learn from Bukhari, the process of collecting the Qur’an as a whole began. In different battles some of Muhammad’s followers died but at the fatal battle of Yamamah, there was such a loss of Muslims that Umar bnu’l Khattab feared the revelation will be lost in whole or in part. This shows the Muslims claim above is false. If Muhammad’s followers already wrote the Quran down and double checked it during Muhammad’s lifetime than why was Umar afraid of the revelation being lost as the followers were killed in battle. The answer is simple. Most of the Quran wasn’t written down but memorized by his followers. Umar bnu’l Khattab strongly urged the Khalifah to give orders that the scattered Surahs should be collected together and preserved in an authoritative written form. Zaid ibn Thabit, one of Muhammad’s friend and amanuenses, at the command of Abu Bak started doing this. The phrase collected together showed the pieces was scatter and wasn’t in one location. As we read Bukhari’s Hadith we learn a few things. What was written down was written on the ribs of palms leaves, white stones and bones and was scattered in his followers homes showing two things. First there wasn’t any unified Quran and secondly not everything was written down.
Zaid’s own words follows. — “Accordingly I searched out the whole of the Qur’an from leafless palm-branches and from white stones and from the breasts of men which means form the hearts of men which are their way of saying the men that could recite the revelations. This is the reason Umar feared the Revelations will be lost if more of his soldiers were killed. Also it showed some of the revelation were lost because of the prior deaths of his soldiers. Therefore we lost some of the supposed original revelations. Zaid didn’t take one person’s recital but it had to be at least two if not more of Muhammad’s followers having the same recitation.
Within a year or two he had completed the work and had written down all the Surahs, each apparently on a separate sheet. It seems that there is some reason to believe that the present arrangement of the Surahs dates from that time. On what system it rests it is hard to say, except that the Surau’l Fatihah was placed first as a sort of introduction to the book partly no doubt because it was even then universally used as a prayer, and so was better known than any other. The other Surahs were arranged on the principle of putting the longest first. Thus the shortest come at the end of the book. This is almost the direct reverse of their chronological order. Tradition enables us to know in what order and on what occasion most of the Surahs, and in certain eases some of their verses were revealed. Zaid on the conclusion of his work handed over the manuscript, written in the Mashq script style to Abn Bakr. The latter preserved it carefully until his death, when it was committed to the custody of ‘Umar, after whose decease it passed into the charge of Hafsah, his daughter, one of Muhammad’s widows.
Copies of separate Surahs were afterwards made either from this one from the original authorities which Zaid had used. Errors, or at least variations, gradually crept into the text of the Qur’an as it was recited, and possibly also into these fragmentary copies. Abu Bakr does not seem to have caused authoritative transcripts of the single manuscript which Zaid had written to be made, and hence it could not counteract the very natural tendency to alteration, mostly or wholly unintentional, to which the Qur’an, like every other work handed down orally, was liable. There were different dialects of Arabic then in use, and there must have been a tendency in the first place to explain certain words, and in the second to permit these dialectic paraphrases to find an entrance into the recited verses. This caused no little confusion and perplexity in the minds of pious Muslims. This, among other things, was causing a separation of the Muslims into different sects. Some of those sects still exist today and each sect calls the other sects heretical and that is why they can’t get along today.
Utman, when engaged in the task of conquering Armenia and Azarbaijan, was warned by Hudhaifah ibnu’l Yamaan of the danger which there was lest the original should be very seriously corrupted in this way. Bukhari tells us that Hudhaifah said to Uthman, “0 Commander of tile Faithful, restrain this people, before they differ among themselves about the Book as much as the Jews and the Christians do.” The Khalifah therefore sent to bid Hafsah forward to him the original manuscript to be copied, promising to return it to her when this had been done. He then commissioned Zaid, in conjunction with three members of Muhammad’s own tribe, the Quraish, to produce a recension of the work. He said to the three Quraishites, “Whenever ye differ, ye and Zaid ibti Thabit, in reference to any part of the Qur’an, then write it in the dialect of the Quraish, for it was revealed in their language.” Because of this there were alterations made to the first original copy and mainly to preserve the Meccan dialect in the Qur’an. Another proof that some changes were made is afforded by the statement that on this occasion Zaid recollected a verse which was not in the first copy, and which he had himself heard Muhammad recite. He did not, however, venture to insert it merely on his own authority, but searched until be found another man who could recite it from memory. When this was done, the verse was entered into the Qur’an. Uthman had other copies made and sent them to every region and every other sheets and volumes of the Qur’an he commanded that it should be burned with the exception of the copy he got from Hafsah. Although hers was different than the final version he returned her copy to her because he said he would and because she was Muhammad’s wife. Finally Hafsah’s copy was also burned in Marwan’s time.
Although Muslims went about gathering all the fragments and the first copies of the Qur’an to make one standard Qur’an they still didn’t get all of them. As time pass there were more sayings or revelations of Muhammad turning up and later were called traditions. Because Muslims said the Qur’an is complete and so they don’t have to admit the Qur’an wasn’t complete, as they claim it is, they came up with the Hadiths. There are many more of Muhammad’s supposedly revelations in the Hadiths and stories about his life. Also there is stories that deify Muhammad. The Hadiths and Sunnahs will be address in other messages.
The earliest copy of the Qur’an is from the late eighth century although I had read articles from Archaeology that they have stumble across some fragments that are earlier. Some of those fragments are the same as the Quran we have today and others are different and than there are some that isn’t in today’s Quran. The Hadiths is from the late tenth and middle eleventh century. Looking at this we wonder why we don’t have any earlier copies of the Quran at least with in a few years or within fifty years of Muhammad’s Death? Where is those bones, animal skins, stones and pieces of wood. All we have is their word about the Quran and yet they don’t have any earlier manuscripts.
This lesson showed the two Muslims’ claims above is false. Hadiths and Archaeology don’t support those claims.
Here are the links to the Hadiths.