Hadiths And Sunnahs

Hadiths And Sunnahs

Muslims Claimed The Quran we have now existed in Muhammad’s life time and was written down and checked by Muhammad and the last three posts I disprove that claim. In the last post I gave Sura 17:1 which reads –- Sura 17:1 — سُبْحَانَ ٱلَّذِى Glory be to Him — أَسْرَىٰ بِعَبْدِهِ لَيْلاً Who caused His servant to set forth night — مِّنَ ٱلْمَسْجِدِ ٱلْحَرَامِ from the Masjid al-Haram — إِلَىٰ ٱلْمَسْجِدِ ٱلأَقْصَا to the Masjid al-Aqsa — ٱلَّذِي بَارَكْنَا حَوْلَهُ around which We blessed — لِنُرِيَهُ مِنْ آيَاتِنَآ so that We cause him to see Our signs. — إِنَّهُ هُوَ ٱلسَّمِيعُ ٱلبَصِيرُ Truly, He, He is The Hearing, The Seeing.

I said Scholars, including myself, always said this was a mistake in the Quran because the Al-Aqsa didn’t existed in Muhammad’s life time. Then God showed me this was added in Uthman Quran after the Al-Aqsa was built, proving the Quran been tamper with.

Another claim they make is the Quran is complete and this I will address now.

We know from Muslims’ Scholars and Hadiths, Zaid said he collected the Quran from Animal Skins, wood, stones and the “Memories of his followers,” and as we know we can line 10 people up and whisper in the first one’s ear something and by the time it got to the tenth person it will be different. So much for his followers memory. I’ve asked where are those stones and still am waiting for an answer.

If the Quran is complete than why do we need the Hadiths and Sunnahs? First let us try understanding what are Hadiths and Sunnahs? –- A Sunnah is more like a Biography of Muhammad’s life; his actions in circumstances, his disapproval or approval of something by his actions or facial expressions. In a Sunnah can be more saying of Muhammad as in the Quran. The Hadiths are more saying of Muhammad that didn’t make it into the Quran because at the time of the compiling of the Quran they were unknown but later they realized there were more left out of the Quran than put in and since they claimed the Quran was complete they had to do something to preserve the other sayings or revelations of Muhammad. Therefore we now have the Hadiths!

Without the Hadiths and Sunnahs we can’t understand the Quran. For example the Hadiths tells the Muslims how many times a day to pray which is five. There are a few Muslims denying they need the Hadiths but when I asked them where in the Quran does it teach how many times a day to pray? Never got an answered. — The Quran also teaches Muslims are to act as Muhammad but the Quran don’t tell you how he acted. We get this information from the Sunnah and Hadiths.

Though Muslims today try white washing the true facts of Islam we can see how Muhammad acted by looking at the terrorist groups such as ISIS and reading the Hadiths and Sunnah. Muslims are taught by the Quran and Hadiths their allah will appoint Muhammad as an intercessor on the day of Judgment and so they want to be like Muhammad because it is him that will decide who will enter into paradise and who will enter into the fire.

Conclusion — Regardless of Muslims’ claims the Quran by itself is not complete. If it was than what is in the Hadiths will had been in the original Quran and we wouldn’t need the Hadiths and Sunnahs to supplement the Quran. Without them the Quran can’t be understood.

This is the fourth message showing the Quran isn’t complete and in message 3 I showed the Quran had a verse added to it after the Al-Aqsa was built because it didn’t exist when Muhammad supposedly was taken there by a flying steed.

Although I offered Muslims evidence the Muslims will say it is my assumptions or opinions but they will not disprove anything I say. For some reason they think if it is my assumptions it is actually disproving my message. Of course that is their way of thinking but evidence is what matters and not what their opinions are. Their excuses without evidence blesses me because I know I presented my side with evidence they can’t disprove and so they are trying to stay afloat by claiming it is my assumptions without proving it is.


Muslims’ Quran Claims Summary

Muslims Quran Claims Summary

I presented 3 messages disproving the Muslims Claim the Quran existed during Muhammad’s life as it is now. I showed by their Hadiths and their commentaries this is a false claim. The Quran we have now is called the Uthman Quran because all others were destroy but his. History shows some Muslims didn’t want to give up their Qurans and Uthman had them killed and destroy the Quran they had. What comments did I get?

Although I gave a thorough presentation I thought the Muslims will jump on my posts and try tearing it apart. By the time I posted the third post I realized they won’t and the two reasons they didn’t is they couldn’t attack my messages and disprove them or else they have me block so they can’t see my posts. This is nothing unusual for a Muslim or anyone if they can’t disprove your messages. Another reason is they are just ignoring them and hope I will go away.

Only Comments I got wasn’t trying to disprove my messages but attacks on me which is also nothing unusual when they can’t disprove your messages. One told me I wasn’t smart enough to interpret the Hadiths since I didn’t know Islam’s History which I do but I told her the Hadiths didn’t need an interpretation because it speaks for themselves or maybe I should say it speaks very plainly and don’t need anyone’s interpretation.

Another said I didn’t know Islam and shouldn’t speak as a know it all when I don’t know anything. I said I was taught by a Imam, Muslims, and Ex-Muslims and I used all Muslim sources. Besides the attack on me they hadn’t tried to tear my messages apart. I don’t think they can because if they could they were already tried it.

We will continue with our studies of the Quran but from a different angle. They claimed the Quran is without mistakes or contradictions. Is this true? If so than it should stand up under a close examination of the Quran contents.

Muslims’ Quran Claim 3

Muslims Quran Claims 3

Lets do a recap of what I had presented so far.

In the Muslims’ Quran Claim 1 and 2 I addressed the Muslims’ claimed the Quran is exactly as it was in Muhammad’s lifetime and showed it wasn’t because most of the Quran wasn’t written down but memorized by Muhammad’s followers. In the Battle of Yamama there were 450 Qurras (reciters) killed and Abu Bakr was afraid when more Qurras are killed a large part of the Qur’an MAY BE LOST, This lets me know most of the Quran wasn’t written down but instead memorized. Because of their deaths Part of the Quran was forever lost because those killed took what they memorized with them to the grave destroying the claim the Quran existed during Muhammad’s lifetime as it is now.

The death of those 450 Qurras prompted Abu Bakr to have Zaid collect the Quran and write it down. Zaid at first refused because Muhammad didn’t collect the Quran into one book and this is another fact proving the Quran wasn’t all written down. Zaid said he collected the stones (white) and animal skins and used what Muhammad’s followers had memorized. Zaid couldn’t take one person’s word; using instead 2, 3, or more people that could recite the particular verse. What I like to know is where are those stones and animal skins? I was told once they are had decayed with the passage of time but there are other manuscripts older that 1400 or 1500 years and they are preserved and Stones don’t decay. They can’t present one stone supporting the Quran. Uthman had them all destroyed and the only one survived was the one he Authorized. Therefore Muslims can’t prove the Quran is as the original that was destroyed. Therefore we don’t know if we have the supposed word of allah or the word of Uthman. Who gave Uthman the authority to destroy other Qurans when there were some written by Qurras that had memorized all the Quran and was closer to Muhammad than he was.

What wasn’t supposedly written down were gathered from the Memories of his followers. They tried memorizing as much as they could in honor of Muhammad. The more they memorized the more others looked up to them. Therefore they memorized verses for prestige than anything. Zaid didn’t take one person’s memorized verse or verses. They had to be at least 3 and preferably more before Zaid allowed the verse to be included in the written Quran. Sometimes Zaid allowed two if he felt the verse should be included and two verse of Sura at Tauba was founded with Khuzaima which he had not founded with anybody else and it is in the Quran.

With this information I have problems with the Quran being complete. First off Muslims’ sources said much was lost when the 450 Qurras were killed which prompted the gathering of the Quran and what they knew went to the grave with them. Secondly how do we know all the ones that contributed to the Quran was correct? Some of them could had made it up for the prestige or trying to be accepted by others. Suicide Bombers stated they were one because of the prestige. They think they will always be remember but after awhile they are forgotten as others are. I have problems with the Quran being based upon the Memories of men. Muslims might say there were some written on the ribs of Palm leaves and bark of wood and stones but I have problems with that too. Where are those pieces? They claimed the pieces has decay but what about the stones which don’t decay? Another Problem I have is why did Uthman destroy every other manuscripts existing at that time and made his the only official one. This lets me know all we have are copies of the Uthman Manuscripts and we can’t compare to see what is correct. Think about it!

What did earlier Muslims had to say about the Quran being the same as the one supposedly existed in Muhammad’s life time?

Abdullah b. `Umar the son of the second caliph Umar ibn al-Khattab said the following. — “Let none of you say, “I have got the whole of the Quran.” How does he know what all of it is? MUCH OF THE QURAN HAS GONE. Let him say instead, “I have got what has survived.”‘ (Jalal al Din `Abdul Rahman b. Abi Bakr al Suyuti, al-Itqan fi `ulum al-Qur’an, Halabi, Cairo, 1935/1354, Volume 2, p. 25)

Here is the Arabic for that — حدثنا إسماعيل بن إبراهيم ، عن أيوب ، عن نافع ، عن ابن عمر ، قال : « لا يقولن أحدكم قد أخذت القرآن كله وما يدريه ما كله ؟ قد ذهب منه قرآن كثير ، ولكن ليقل : قد أخذت منه ما ظهر منه

haddathana ‘iismaeil bin ‘iibrahim , ean ‘ayuwb , ean nafie , ean abn eumar , qal : << la yaqulunn ‘ahadakum qad ‘ukhidhat alquran klh wama yudrih ma klh ? qad dhahab minh quran kthyr , walikun lliaqill : qad ‘ukhidhat minh ma zahar minh

There are many earlier sources showing much of the Quran is lost.

Sura 17:1 — سُبْحَانَ ٱلَّذِى Glory be to Him — أَسْرَىٰ بِعَبْدِهِ لَيْلاً Who caused His servant to set forth night — مِّنَ ٱلْمَسْجِدِ ٱلْحَرَامِ from the Masjid al-Haram — إِلَىٰ ٱلْمَسْجِدِ ٱلأَقْصَا to the Masjid al-Aqsa — ٱلَّذِي بَارَكْنَا حَوْلَهُ around which We blessed — لِنُرِيَهُ مِنْ آيَاتِنَآ so that We cause him to see Our signs. — إِنَّهُ هُوَ ٱلسَّمِيعُ ٱلبَصِيرُ Truly, He, He is The Hearing, The Seeing.

This is a verse showing their allah took Muhammad from the mosque in Mecca to the mosque in Jerusalem which is called Al-Aqsa or the Aqusa. This will be address in detail in another message but for now I want to present what God revealed to me about this verse as proof there were things added to the Quran after Uthman. —- The Mosque Al-Aqsa in Jerusalem didn’t exist in Muhammad’s life time. I believe this verse was added to the Quran after the Al-Aqsa was finished in 705 AD by a Muslim wanting to exalt Muhammad. Please note earlier Muslims and their Scholars accepted this trip as truth and than with our knowledge of the past today Muslims had to make up excuses about this verse which I will deal with in another message.

As other Scholars I always looked on this verse as a mistake but at work as I was thinking about this verse, I got the Quran out to read it and God revealed to me this was added to the Quran at a later date after the Mosque was built.

I can go on and on proving the Quran didn’t exist as it is now during Muhammad’s life time. There are too much evidence showing otherwise and when a Muslims try denying the facts they are actually showing how they are grasping at straws trying to keep their religion afloat. They don’t realized they are actually making themselves look dumb in the eyes of the world with their lamebrain excuses.

My prayer is some Muslims will rethink their beliefs and start asking Questions about their Quran instead of just being like a Parrot and only repeat what other5s told them. My prayers are some Muslims will start thinking for themselves.

Muslims’ Quran Claim 2

Muslims Quran Claims 2

Muslims claimed Muhammad memorized the Quran and dictated it to his followers which wrote it down and double checked it during Muhammad’s life time and the Quran we have today is the same one that existed during Muhammad’s lifetime. In the lesson Muslims Quran Claims 1, using the Hadiths I showed this wasn’t true because the first collection was made after Muhammad’s death during the Caliphate of Abu Bakr. In the last lesson I gave the links to the Hadiths supporting what I said. If you want to check me out than here are the Hadiths I used. — Sahih Al-Bukhari HadithHadith 6.201 & 9.301 — Narrated by Zaid bin Thabit who was one of those who used to write the Divine Revelation: –- Zaid asked “How dare you do a thing WHICH THE PROPHET HAS NOT DONE?” —

Showing Muhammad didn’t have the Quran in one book during his lifetime. –- This Lesson I will give more information and We can see the Claims by Muslims are not consistent.

What prompted the Quran Compilation? Let us look in History again.

Abu Bakr sent for me after the (heavy) casualties among the warriors (of the battle) of Yamama (where a great number of Qurra’ were killed 450 to be exact). Qurra’ are those knowing part of the Qran by heart.

Umar was present with Abu Bakr who said, ‘Umar has come to me and said, The people have suffered heavy casualties on the day of (the battle of) Yamama, and I am afraid that there will be more casualties among the Qurra’ (those who know the Qur’an by heart) at other battle-fields, whereby a large part of the Qur’an MAY BE LOST, unless you collect it. And I am of the opinion that you should collect the Qur’an.” — (The True Guidance, An Introduction To Quranic Studies, part 4 [Light of Life – P.O. BOX 13, A-9503 Villach, Austria], p. 47- citing Ibn Kathir’s Al-Bidaya wa al-Nibaya, chapter on Battle of Yamama)

According to another source, when these men died they took with them portions of the Quran that they alone had memorized: — Zuhri reports, ‘We have heard that many Qur’an passages were revealed but that those who had memorized them fell in the Yemama fighting.— Those passages had not been written down, and following the deaths of those who knew them, were no longer known; nor had Abu Bakr, nor `Umar nor `Uthman as yet collected the texts of the Quran.Those lost passages were not to be found with anyone after the deaths of those who had memorized them. — (John Burton, The Collection of the Qur’an, pp. 126-127, Abu Bakr `Abdullah b. abi Da’ud, Kitab al-Masahif, ed. A. Jeffery, Cairo, 1936/1355, p. 23:)

This was the reason impelling them to pursue the compilation of the Quran during the reign of Abu Bakr, committing it to sheets for fear that there should perish in further theaters of war men who bore much of the Quran which they would take to the grave with them on their fall, and which, with their passing, would not be found with any other. This shows many parts of the Quran was lost on the battle field at Yemama and proved the falsehood of a complete Quran during Muhammad’s lifetime.

I said Muslims’ claims aren’t consistent. Let us look at some other sources.

Sahih Muslim 6029: — Anas is reported to have said: Four persons collected the Qur’an during the lifetime of Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) and all of them were Ansar:

Muadh Bin Jabal, Ubayy Bin Kab, Zaid Bin Thabit, Abu Zaid. Qatada said: Anas, who was Abu Zaid? He said: He was one of my uncles.

Zaid was not the only person who had compiled the Qur’an in book form. Others such as Ubayy Bin Kab and Abdallah ibn Masud also compiled Qur’ans of their very own. In fact, both Ubayy and Ibn Masud had been singled out by Muhammad himself as two of the top four Qur’anic reciters: — Masruq reported: We used to go to Abdullah Bin Amr and talk to him. Ibn Numair said: One day we made a mention of Abdullah Bin Masud, whereupon he said: you have made mention of a person whom I love more than anything else. I heard Allah’s Messenger as saying: Learn Qur’an from four persons: Ibn Umm Abd (i.e., Abdullah Bin Masud – he started from him – then Muadh bin Jabal and Ubayy bin Kab, then Salim the ally of Ali Hudhaifa. (Sahih Muslim, Book 031, Number 6024) — Another tradition confirms that besides Ibn Masud, Ubayy and Zaid ibn Thabit, there were at least two others who had also collected the Qur’an:

Despite the fact that this tradition contradicts Zaid’s own testimony that no Qur’anic text had been compiled in Muhammad’s time it does confirm, however, that other Qur’ans were in circulation at the time of Zaid’s codex. Owing to this fact, controversy evolved among the Muslims as they began accusing each other of tampering with the Book of Allah, which eventually led to the third Caliph Uthman taking drastic measures.

Hudaifa b. al Yeman came to `Uthman direct from the Aderbaijan and Armenian frontier where, uniting the forces from Iraq and those from Syria, he had had an opportunity to observe regional differences over the Qur’an. “Commander of the faithful,” he advised, “take this umma in hand before they differ about the Book like Christians and Jews.” `Uthman sent asking Hafsa to lend him the sheets [inherited by her father, `Umar, from Abu Bakr, and now in her possession] “so that we can copy them into other volumes and then return them.” She sent her suhuf to `Uthman who summon Zaid, Sa`id b. al `As, `Abdul Rahman b. al Harith b. Hisham and `Abdullah b. al Zubair and commanded them to copy the sheets into several volumes. Addressing the group from Quraish, he added, “Wherever you differ from Zaid, write the word in the dialect of Quraish for it was revealed in that tongue.”

When they had copied the sheets, `Uthman sent a copy to each of the main centers of the empire with the command that all other Qur’an materials, whether in single sheet form, or in whole volumes, WERE TO BE BURNED…’ (Burton, pp. 141-142- citing Ahmad b. `Ali b. Muhammad al `Asqalani, ibn Hajar, “Fath al Bari”, 13 vols, Cairo, 1939/1348, vol. 9, p. 18; bold and capital emphasis ours)

It becomes obvious from these traditions that, contrary to popular Islamic teaching, contradictions and variant readings existed between the different codices. It is interesting to note that these variances gave rise to charges of corruption and textual perversion amongst the Muslim Umma, causing Uthman to burn texts written by eye and ear witnesses of Muhammad.

Uthman then proceeded to make Zaid’s codex the official text, forcing others to accept his decision. This decision wasn’t based on the wisdom of God but on one man’s choice. –- “The question that begs to be asked is who gave Uthman the right to burn Qur’ans, standardizing Zaid’s text, when there were others who had more authority for receiving official standardization of their respective texts, such as Ibn Masud and Ubayy?”

Preservation of the Noble Quran is a MIRACLE of Islam.The Rashidun Caliph
UTHMAN [ May Allah Bless him],compiled SIX IDENTICAL MASTERS and destroyed all other written copies. — The SIX identical Masters were distributed to various locations in the Muslim lands of that time. Caliph Uthman’s compilation is the ONLY MASTER WHICH MUST BE TRUSTED as the ACCURATE QURAN till the Day of Judegement. The Quran that we read to day is the copy of Uthman’s Master Quran. — Any Quran other than Caliph UTHMAN’s compilation is INVALID and MUST NOT BE TRUSTED. Allah has promised the preservation of the Quran.

So the Quran was written by Uthman, not Muhammad. — Instead of the word of Allah, we have the word of Uthman

Today’s Quran isn’t from Muhammad or Allah but from Uthman and is called the Uthman Quran.

The information in the first lesson and this lesson shows Muhammad had nothing to do with the Quran of today.

Muslims claim the Quran is complete but later they find other sayings of Muhammad and so created the Hadiths to supplement the Quran. The Quran is lacking in many things and can’t be understood without the Hadiths which are writing with more of Muhammad’s saying and his life showing what the Quran really means.

Stay tune for more examinations of the Quran.

Muslims’Quran Claim 1

Muslims Quran Claim 1

Muslims makes claims about the Quran but do the evidence sustain their claims? These lessons will take the claims and examine them and compare them to reality. The claims will come from Muslims and much of the Evidence will come from Hadiths, Modern and Ancient Muslim’s Commentators and their Scholars. Muslims get upset when their claims are challenge but why? If what they said are the truth than it should be easy to refute the evidence given but it must be done with true evidence and not opinions.

1. –- The Text of the Quran is entirely reliable. It has been as it is, unedited, unaltered, not tamper with in anyway since the time of its revelation. [M. Fethullah Gulen, Questions this modern age put to Islam, London: Truestar, 1993 page 58] — The Quran was Memorized by Muhammad and then he dictated it to his companions and the Scribes wrote it down and cross checked it during his lifetime. Not one word has been changed over the centuries [Understanding the Muslims and Islam, Australian Federation of Islamic Councils Inc. Pamphlet November 1991].

There are two points these statements are making. First Muhammad memorized the complete Quran and Secondly Muhammad dictated it to his followers who wrote it down without altering or editing it and they double check the Quran during Muhammad’s lifetime. If this is true than History, the Hadiths, and the Quran should support these two claims. Question is are those claims supported by irrefutable evidence? Let us examine Muslims’ sources.

Muhammad Memorized the Quran: — The Quran and Hadiths clearly shows he didn’t. —

Sura 87:6 We shall make thee read (O Muhammad) so that thou shalt not forget

Sura 87:7 Save that which Allah willeth. Lo! He knoweth the disclosed and that which still is hidden;

Sura 2:106 Nothing of our revelation (even a single verse) do we abrogate or cause be forgotten, but we bring (in place) one better or the like thereof. Knowest thou not that Allah is Able to do all things?

The above Quran verses showed Muhammad did forget some of what the angel supposedly told him.

Sahih Bukhari 61:558 Narrated Aisha: Allah’s Apostle heard a man reciting the Qur’an at night, and said, “May Allah bestow His Mercy on him, as he has reminded me of such-and-such Verses of such-and-such Suras, which I was caused to forget

Sahih Bukhari 61:556 Narrated Aisha: The Prophet heard a man reciting the Qur’an in the mosque and said, “May Allah bestow His Mercy on him, as he has reminded me of such-and-such Verses of such a Surah.”

The Quran and the Sahih Bukhari Hadith showed Muhammad did forget some of the Quran and if he heard another recite it than he will remember it. Point is contrary to the Muslim’s claim he memorized the Quran the evidence showed differently.

His followers wrote down what Muhammad dictated Unedited or unaltered and double check it in Muhammad’s life time. — First question in my mind is where are the Manuscripts or fragments of the Manuscripts from his followers? The Bible has manuscripts and Fragments of Manuscript that is older than their supposed Manuscripts will be if this was a true statement. Also they wrote down what he dictated to them but history showed they didn’t write much down. Let us look at History.

My proof is in the Hadiths’ links at the end of this evidence.

About a year or so after Muhammad’s death, as we learn from Bukhari, the process of collecting the Qur’an as a whole began. In different battles some of Muhammad’s followers died but at the fatal battle of Yamamah, there was such a loss of Muslims that Umar bnu’l Khattab feared the revelation will be lost in whole or in part. This shows the Muslims claim above is false. If Muhammad’s followers already wrote the Quran down and double checked it during Muhammad’s lifetime than why was Umar afraid of the revelation being lost as the followers were killed in battle. The answer is simple. Most of the Quran wasn’t written down but memorized by his followers. Umar bnu’l Khattab strongly urged the Khalifah to give orders that the scattered Surahs should be collected together and preserved in an authoritative written form. Zaid ibn Thabit, one of Muhammad’s friend and amanuenses, at the command of Abu Bak started doing this. The phrase collected together showed the pieces was scatter and wasn’t in one location. As we read Bukhari’s Hadith we learn a few things. What was written down was written on the ribs of palms leaves, white stones and bones and was scattered in his followers homes showing two things. First there wasn’t any unified Quran and secondly not everything was written down.

Zaid’s own words follows. — “Accordingly I searched out the whole of the Qur’an from leafless palm-branches and from white stones and from the breasts of men which means form the hearts of men which are their way of saying the men that could recite the revelations. This is the reason Umar feared the Revelations will be lost if more of his soldiers were killed. Also it showed some of the revelation were lost because of the prior deaths of his soldiers. Therefore we lost some of the supposed original revelations. Zaid didn’t take one person’s recital but it had to be at least two if not more of Muhammad’s followers having the same recitation.

Within a year or two he had completed the work and had written down all the Surahs, each apparently on a separate sheet. It seems that there is some reason to believe that the present arrangement of the Surahs dates from that time. On what system it rests it is hard to say, except that the Surau’l Fatihah was placed first as a sort of introduction to the book partly no doubt because it was even then universally used as a prayer, and so was better known than any other. The other Surahs were arranged on the principle of putting the longest first. Thus the shortest come at the end of the book. This is almost the direct reverse of their chronological order. Tradition enables us to know in what order and on what occasion most of the Surahs, and in certain eases some of their verses were revealed. Zaid on the conclusion of his work handed over the manuscript, written in the Mashq script style to Abn Bakr. The latter preserved it carefully until his death, when it was committed to the custody of ‘Umar, after whose decease it passed into the charge of Hafsah, his daughter, one of Muhammad’s widows.

Copies of separate Surahs were afterwards made either from this one from the original authorities which Zaid had used. Errors, or at least variations, gradually crept into the text of the Qur’an as it was recited, and possibly also into these fragmentary copies. Abu Bakr does not seem to have caused authoritative transcripts of the single manuscript which Zaid had written to be made, and hence it could not counteract the very natural tendency to alteration, mostly or wholly unintentional, to which the Qur’an, like every other work handed down orally, was liable. There were different dialects of Arabic then in use, and there must have been a tendency in the first place to explain certain words, and in the second to permit these dialectic paraphrases to find an entrance into the recited verses. This caused no little confusion and perplexity in the minds of pious Muslims. This, among other things, was causing a separation of the Muslims into different sects. Some of those sects still exist today and each sect calls the other sects heretical and that is why they can’t get along today.

Utman, when engaged in the task of conquering Armenia and Azarbaijan, was warned by Hudhaifah ibnu’l Yamaan of the danger which there was lest the original should be very seriously corrupted in this way. Bukhari tells us that Hudhaifah said to Uthman, “0 Commander of tile Faithful, restrain this people, before they differ among themselves about the Book as much as the Jews and the Christians do.” The Khalifah therefore sent to bid Hafsah forward to him the original manuscript to be copied, promising to return it to her when this had been done. He then commissioned Zaid, in conjunction with three members of Muhammad’s own tribe, the Quraish, to produce a recension of the work. He said to the three Quraishites, “Whenever ye differ, ye and Zaid ibti Thabit, in reference to any part of the Qur’an, then write it in the dialect of the Quraish, for it was revealed in their language.” Because of this there were alterations made to the first original copy and mainly to preserve the Meccan dialect in the Qur’an. Another proof that some changes were made is afforded by the statement that on this occasion Zaid recollected a verse which was not in the first copy, and which he had himself heard Muhammad recite. He did not, however, venture to insert it merely on his own authority, but searched until be found another man who could recite it from memory. When this was done, the verse was entered into the Qur’an. Uthman had other copies made and sent them to every region and every other sheets and volumes of the Qur’an he commanded that it should be burned with the exception of the copy he got from Hafsah. Although hers was different than the final version he returned her copy to her because he said he would and because she was Muhammad’s wife. Finally Hafsah’s copy was also burned in Marwan’s time.

Although Muslims went about gathering all the fragments and the first copies of the Qur’an to make one standard Qur’an they still didn’t get all of them. As time pass there were more sayings or revelations of Muhammad turning up and later were called traditions. Because Muslims said the Qur’an is complete and so they don’t have to admit the Qur’an wasn’t complete, as they claim it is, they came up with the Hadiths. There are many more of Muhammad’s supposedly revelations in the Hadiths and stories about his life. Also there is stories that deify Muhammad. The Hadiths and Sunnahs will be address in other messages.

The earliest copy of the Qur’an is from the late eighth century although I had read articles from Archaeology that they have stumble across some fragments that are earlier. Some of those fragments are the same as the Quran we have today and others are different and than there are some that isn’t in today’s Quran. The Hadiths is from the late tenth and middle eleventh century. Looking at this we wonder why we don’t have any earlier copies of the Quran at least with in a few years or within fifty years of Muhammad’s Death? Where is those bones, animal skins, stones and pieces of wood. All we have is their word about the Quran and yet they don’t have any earlier manuscripts.

This lesson showed the two Muslims’ claims above is false. Hadiths and Archaeology don’t support those claims.

Here are the links to the Hadiths.



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The Quran is Muslims’ Holy Book and the word of their god allah and they claimed it is of divine origin and is perfect without mistakes and unchanged since it was handed down to Muhammad by an angel. If this is true than the Quran should stand on its own merits under any close examination. If it isn’t true than their claims about the Quran will fall apart. I have seen Muslims get upset when they know someone will examine the Quran closely.

Many Muslims hasn’t read the Quran. I said that because Many Muslims told me they hadn’t. They said their Imams and Mullahs teaches them its meaning and they are taught not to disagree with what their Imams or Mullahs taught them. Muslims can read the Quran but they are not to question it. If they don’t understand than they are to ask their Imams or Mullahs and not to question their answers. Therefore they are following blindly something they know nothing about and the Quran teaches the same thing.

Sura 5:101-102. “o ye who believe ! ask not questions about things which if made plain to you, may cause you trouble…. some people before you did ask, and on that account lost their faith…..

I say this verse is true because when a Muslims begin to think for himself he will leave Islam. As long as he is control by their religion, Imams and Mullahs they have blinders on their eyes. These messages will examine Muslims’ claims about the Quran very closely and I will revealed the truth about the Quran’s compiling and their claims. I do this hoping to open the eyes of some Muslims and they see the light and realized they been deceived.

These Messages is done out of my love for the Muslims’ souls. It grieves when I hear about one blowing himself up thinking he is going to paradise and have 72 virgins when in reality he is in hell. My prayers are every Muslim will read the messages and maybe start thinking. I do challenge every Muslim to disprove what I present. Next message I will list some of the claims Muslims makes about their Quran.

Muslims’ Quran

This blog will reveal all the facts about the Quran. We will look at the claims Muslims makes and the reality of the Quran. I will give the history of the Quran compiling and reveal who it is from. I am doing this because of my love for the Muslims that are trapped in Islam. Praying their eyes will be open to the truth.